# Are we becoming too reliant upon computers?

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For example, the coffee shop this morning had a computer glitch. I wanted a coffee, and had exact change, but the girl kept saying "I cannot help you, our computers are down"  I just want a coffee... here is the money, give me a coffee.  The Manager finally came over and gave me a coffee, no charge.   But had he not been there, I would never have got it.  All because the computer was down.

TheOtherTink

I once bought something at a store for about $9 and gave the cashier a$10 bill.  She accidentally entered $100 as the amount tendered, and she started to count out$91 in change for me, until I stopped her and explained that she only owed me a dollar.

P.S. She thanked me profusely.

Didge TheOtherTink

I believe it.

One of my Japanese friends stuffed a spread sheet and when I fixed it for her she said, "How can I thank you?" So I wrote something on a slip of paper and said, "Translate that into Japanese." She was puzzled but did it so now I know that mijikai ita ni mai  is Japanese for two short planks.

Your shop assistant was definitely a bit mijikai.

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

@Didge:

LOLSo in English you were implying she was thick as two short planks, but in Japanese you were saying don't worry about it (at least that's how Google Translate interprets the phrase).  Did you figure that out yourself, or did you learn it from your former Japanese boss?

Didge TheOtherTink

No, that would be a happy coincidence. That's the translation she gave me. Perhaps she was having a joke at my expense.

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

@ Didge:

But did she know the idiomatic English meaning?

Didge TheOtherTink

Quien sabe? (That's Japanese for "Your guess is as good as mine."

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

Dommage. (That's Japanese for "tough toenails.")

Marianne TheOtherTink

@T(h)ink

Lol, I found another translation:

Don’t worry about it = ki ni shinai de kudasai.

(toenail or fingernail = tsume)

Marianne TheOtherTink

@Didge

Lol - I don't think that the true meaning of this sentence would work in Japanese; I found:

(extremely silly = hijō ni orokana) or (in a kinder way: you are so funny = (omoshiroi hito desu ne).

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

@ Marianne:

I looked up "mijikai ita ni mai", word by literal word, and it seems to say "short board two sheet", but idiomatically, the whole phrase seems to mean "don't worry about it."  Maybe it metaphorically means two short planks on a foot bridge are easy to traverse, or something like that?

Marianne TheOtherTink

Lol - I found these definitions:

mijikai = short

ita = plank or plywood

ni = two

mai = sheet, plate, board, ... (that should, actually, stand for thick)

The original meaning of "thick as two short planks" is, as already said above, a very different one:

Oh - there might be even three planks - lol.

Marianne TheOtherTink

@T(h)ink

Dōmo arigatō (どうもありがとう)

(Quel dommage que les sentiments ne soient pas des preuves! - Madame Roland)

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

@ Marianne:

"Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum."

Marianne TheOtherTink

@T(h)ink

"Quid enim sum? Res cogitans!"

Didge TheOtherTink

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink
@ Marianne:

Lol, my great-grandfather said something like that in his diary (in translation): "But what am I? A dream. I have dreamed myself."

And the Sibyl said to Claudius when he asked (while awaiting the ferryman), "What's next?", she answered, "You'll dream a different dream, I promise you."

Marianne TheOtherTink

Lol, are you referring to the "I, Claudius" novel?

No, I did not see the BBC TV series.

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

@ Marianne:

Yes, the TV series, "I, Claudius" with Derek Jacoby.  Really excellent.

Marianne TheOtherTink

@T(h)ink

Well, I didn't see the series, as I only read about the story, but it must be good!

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

Yes, all the episodes used to be on YouTube, but now most of them have been blocked for copyright reasons. Here is one that I found still available.(and I hope also in Switzerland)

Marianne TheOtherTink

It looks interesting, and I saved the link to watch it later.

Thank you, T(h)ink.

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

You're welcome, Marianne.    Nihil erat. (how did they say 'you're welcome' in Latin?)

Marianne TheOtherTink

Opinions differ very much about an answer to "thank you" in Latin, and I would also opt for the more simple "nihil erat".

The answer I prefer is "Nihil est de re dicendum" (no need to speak about that) - but that is my "gut feeling" - and it sounds the nicest - lol, as I am really no expert and I don't like the other proposal "salutatio" (bold for the accents). Funny, I could not find a mention "servus tuus" or "serva tua" (with or without "sum") as an answer to a "gratias tibi", for instance.

TheOtherTink TheOtherTink

Lol, I'm surprised it isn't used in Latin literature somewhere.  Maybe the ancient Romans weren't used to being thanked, at least not in the areas they conquered.

Marianne TheOtherTink

That is quite possible. I was also trying to find answers, but there were too many assumptions, errors or lacking explanations.

Didge
I've also occasionally seen a shop assistant go to water when their computer was down. Or, *shudder* their credit card system.

In the broader sense? We have become very dependent on computers but then, we have become very dependent on cars. It's up to the individual to decide whether they want that domination to be complete or whether it is better to walk sometimes, or think sometimes. Computers, like cars, are so convenient that I would hate to do without them, but we get to choose whether or not they dominate us.
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Yes

Rooster

Not so much of us in the older generation but the younger ones don't know any other way. They can't even make change in their head anymore. I've heard that at more businesses over the last few years : Sorry, but the Computers are all down. Geez, what happened to pocket calculators ?

Marianne

Oh yes, computers are extremely useful, but when they or their programmes fail, most equipments cannot be run manually, and the operators can only call the computer specialist in charge - lol.

There is also a problem with modern engines and mechanisms, like with cars; you can't repair anymore with "bits and pieces" in emergency situations.

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