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. Eleanor Butler (1739–1829) and Sarah Ponsonby (1755–1831) dreamed of an unconventional life: one where two women, deeply in love, could live together. As Jonny Wilkes explores, it was a dream that took them to north Wales and saw them rub shoulders with the personalities of the day… image

https://womenshistorynetwork.org/the-ladies-of-llangollen/

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Are both èlls in Llangollen pronounced with the kitty hiss?

It's interesting that until relatively recently, male homosexual acts have in most places been subject to severe punishment by law, whereas female homosexuality was generally not even mentioned in law (even in Nazi Germany), being subject only to social disapproval, as in the case of the ladies of Llangollen.

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In the 19th century the British Parliament passed a bill outlawing female homosexuality but Queen Victoria refused to sign the Royal Assent ‘because ladies do not do that sort of thing’.

But did she?

Yes..kitty hiss for both.


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Did she what? Not sign the law?

Or *blush* do that sort of thing?! :O

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She wouldn’t sign the bill...a certain Ukrainian and I discussed this and concluded Victoria might have done that sort of thing :D



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"Victoria might have done that sort of thing"

I'm shocked, shocked!   :O :O :O

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Hi Tink,

"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." Lev. 20:13 (Old Testament)

In Romans (New Testament) female lust for each other was condemned and in 1 Corinthians it is declared the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 provides a list and specifically mentions homosexual offenders. LH

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Hi LH,

Yeah, the Old Testament and St Paul frowned (to say the least) on homosexuality.

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