Yes and many of those same things happened in WW2 and subsequent wars also. There will always be these kind of things happening while there is unrest in a country.
In WW1, we were dealing mostly with empires and there will always be unrest. I've read some about strikes here during WW2 but Roosevelt easily handled them. Unfortunately, we really don't have anyone now who can bring the country back together by ANY means. But I also don't think there will be a massive uprising either.
You're talking here about Europeans and Russians here and not Americans as I believe we are a different and proud breed.
In war or peacetime, the better you treat the armed forces, the less trouble you will have. Remember Vietnam?
Rooster, it is an interesting point that we USA are a different breed...and as i learn more with information like this YouTube video, the more I admire FDR. The right person for the right time...
Seeing all this about the effectiveness of spies and internal agitators working for hostile governments to bring about revolution, for example they blew up a factory or something on an island off East Coast USA in WWI...do you see Manzanar and the WWII "relocation" camps for Japanese citizens as at least understandable? I did ask my parents about that, and they explained to me the confidence in US government at that time, that people generally accepted the relocation as a necessary step?
I am NOt supporting the program, as you realize I am certain, and I am glad Reagan made the apology...but now I am wondering if it was at least understandable?
@Virginia: I think it was understandable at the time with the extreme paranoia after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. But after a year or so? They should have been all released. But the paranoia in the government kept them there, mostly the FBI. Because it was a "sneak" attack I think they believed that all Japanese were sneaky and would sabotage things in the name of Japan. Sad thing but inevitable after Pearl Harbor.
It is true that Germany supported Bolsheviks. In March 1918, Russia signed the Brest Litovsk treaty and let Germany to occupy Poland, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine.
Yes, I did know about it, and yes, the Establishments rarely care about the hoi polloi.
One thing that was different in those days, however, is that the uppercrust did send their sons into battle, unlike today, for the most part. And casualties among line officers in WW1 were generally quite a bit higher than among enlisted men.
Tink, I saw that in an historical video; the Prussian nobility custom was that the first-born son takes all, and the younger sons took military careers....many many many were killed.
Yes, primogeniture was to insure that landed estates would not be broken up into smaller and smaller pieces with each passing generation. I think some of the later-born sons became clergymen or government officials too.
Yes and many of those same things happened in WW2 and subsequent wars also. There will always be these kind of things happening while there is unrest in a country.
In WW1, we were dealing mostly with empires and there will always be unrest. I've read some about strikes here during WW2 but Roosevelt easily handled them. Unfortunately, we really don't have anyone now who can bring the country back together by ANY means. But I also don't think there will be a massive uprising either.
You're talking here about Europeans and Russians here and not Americans as I believe we are a different and proud breed.
In war or peacetime, the better you treat the armed forces, the less trouble you will have. Remember Vietnam?
Rooster, it is an interesting point that we USA are a different breed...and as i learn more with information like this YouTube video, the more I admire FDR. The right person for the right time...
Seeing all this about the effectiveness of spies and internal agitators working for hostile governments to bring about revolution, for example they blew up a factory or something on an island off East Coast USA in WWI...do you see Manzanar and the WWII "relocation" camps for Japanese citizens as at least understandable? I did ask my parents about that, and they explained to me the confidence in US government at that time, that people generally accepted the relocation as a necessary step?
I am NOt supporting the program, as you realize I am certain, and I am glad Reagan made the apology...but now I am wondering if it was at least understandable?
@Virginia: I think it was understandable at the time with the extreme paranoia after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. But after a year or so? They should have been all released. But the paranoia in the government kept them there, mostly the FBI. Because it was a "sneak" attack I think they believed that all Japanese were sneaky and would sabotage things in the name of Japan. Sad thing but inevitable after Pearl Harbor.
ty Rooster, your insights helpful as usual.
It is true that Germany supported Bolsheviks. In March 1918, Russia signed the Brest Litovsk treaty and let Germany to occupy Poland, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine.
Thank you Kninjanin, I am learning indeed, and did not know the Russian Revolution was SO helpful to Germany.
Yes, I did know about it, and yes, the Establishments rarely care about the hoi polloi.
One thing that was different in those days, however, is that the uppercrust did send their sons into battle, unlike today, for the most part. And casualties among line officers in WW1 were generally quite a bit higher than among enlisted men.
Tink, I saw that in an historical video; the Prussian nobility custom was that the first-born son takes all, and the younger sons took military careers....many many many were killed.
Yes, primogeniture was to insure that landed estates would not be broken up into smaller and smaller pieces with each passing generation. I think some of the later-born sons became clergymen or government officials too.
Received! I recall mention of one noble family that was quite decimated, their officer sons so many of them killed...