Did you know that US police shoot about 1000 people to death every year?

Question

That's close to three every day, on average.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

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Answer 1

Why does that not surprise me?

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It did surprise me... I would not have guessed that many.

Answer 2

That's a lot more than I figured. Glad there isn't any Police out here and I haven't seen a county Sheriff in months.

Answer 3

Geez! What's this all coming too?

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It's coming to Antifa... never was a flag more apt: an A in a hole. 

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Couldn't agree more!!!

Answer 4

Yes Tink I have known that for about three days now, because you and Marianne got me started listening to independent news sources spring 2017. The newscaster also compared the rate of police killing citizens in other countries...and yes, much much lower in other countries...it was awful.

And, I have already done something about it. When I was out driving yesterday, I saw a policeman stopped on the side of the freeway exit. So I pulled over, walked back to him and asked if he was okay, that I noticed all his lights flashing and was everything okay, did he need any help?

He said yes he was fine, so I just made sure all his radios and things were working and he could always call.

He thanked me very much, and I did hear a special note in his voice. 

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Cops have no fear

When Ginny's near. 

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Tink speaking of police, I got a newsletter/e-mail from a friend in Des Moines IA ("trigger warning" - which is a term I learned from you also - anyway, this friend is prolly a liberal. Except I think of him as conservative because he does not like violence, I am not really sure of the difference between liberals and conservatives. But then also, I recall your comment that ultra-liberal and ultra-conservative will always meet each other around the back when they get too far out there!)

Anyway, my liberal/conservative Iowa friend and his S.O. were pondering, and finally decided they needed to go out to the protests. So their non-violent friend sent them to a protest of concern, and they went over to stand by the police. The protesters began 'taking a knee,' and so my friends began encouraging the police to do the same. They could see the police wanted to do that, so my friends looked up the leaders of the protest to see if something could be worked out, the police take the knee and then everybody goes home.

So that's what happened! Row after row, one at a time, all the police, joining all the protesters...and then everybody went home.

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Well, Virginia, I'm glad it was so easily settled in Des Moines, but somehow I don't think it would work in NYC... too many "protesters" seem intent on burning and looting.

After what happened to Macy's flagship store in midtown, other stores, especially upscale ones like Saks Fifth Avenue, boarded up their storefronts and hired security guards with attack dogs.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/saks-fifth-avenue-is-wrapped-in-razor-wire-to-prevent-looting/

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Tink, in that article there is a photo that looks like the same concept...those beautiful young men, with their dogs, trying to protect Saks...their raised arms? I recognize this from San Francisco 1960's, it is the Black Power salute! And the protectors (of all colors) are giving it along with the protesters.

Somehow, I have to believe that we will come through okay. I am quite certain I posted on here, about the lady in Ephrata, Washington who rallied the employees and customers at her fabric store and made 176,000 masks for the local hospital? That is who we really are. Hope I'm not trivializing all this, I know you are close to some of the greatest devastation, and I am not. (Please look below photo...I could not find a way to get all those copies out)

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Here is what I am hearing from some of the more pessimistic commentators, although I am certain they say these things in hopes of encouraging his listeners in a better direction...but you study such things well and clearly, and -- have you encountered the idea that "Civil unrest will be exploited to bring in tyranny;" and do you think there is any possibility of that?

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Yes, of course, Virginia, civil unrest can indeed be exploited to bring in tyranny. It was in Russia, Germany and China, as well as many other smaller countries, although in many cases, it was a transition from tyranny to another tyranny.

Below is a famous picture of Ernst Thaelmann, giving the clenched fist communist salute, as he marches in Berlin in 1927, with his Red Front Fighters' League. Fear of a communist revolution had much to do with enabling the Nazis to seize power six years later.

I think the guards in front of Saks are giving the Black Power salute to indicate that they sympathize with the protest. but NOT with the looting. Ironically, I think most people who use that salute have no idea of its sordid communist history.

BTW, German Communists gave the clenched-fist salute with a bent elbow, so it would not be confused with a Nazi salute. I think Russian Communists raised their fists to full height.

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Tink i blew up both those fascinating photos and looked at them for a while...no, I did not know of that salute, those salutes. I notice the back of his hand is turned forward...no I had not seen it.

For our present protests, I do think it is true that this civil unrest is due to the economic and financial collapse, as much as police racism. And my hope is that everyone will see through the rioting and the violence that is also occurring, along with the civil disobedience -- to see that the violence is (mostly) baiting from violent people who want to see a civil war erupt out of all this.

And I have noted that both the authorities AND the protesters seem to be aware of the small violent factions, and sometimes they do not take the bait.

This time, we don't have FDR to do fireside chats and lay out a meaningful plan for a way forward, and even if we did the Deep State might hamstring such a person now. So we just have to find the way forward ourselves, with great change for the financial and economic sectors. Over much of the rural countryside of Washington State now, people planting gardens and raising beef/chickens ducks pigs, carrying food out to each other, I am choosing to believe we can rebuild our economy from below -- without a blood bath.

(Steps down off soapbox. )