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O'Kay, O'Tink...this is smelling kinda fishy to me...couldn't open your link but I did find one from a Montana radio station...

"Brady Toensing of Burlington, the man responsible for the claims filed to the U.S. attorney for Vermont, was a chairman for the Trump campaign in his state." (My emphasis.)

And then,

"Sen. Sanders, formerly mayor of Burlington, Vermont's largest city, regards the claims as a political game levied against him after his run for president in the 2016 primary election, a platform which has transformed the small-state senator into an influential voice in American liberal politics."

http://www.kbzk.com/story/35754508/sen-bernie-sanders-and-wife-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud

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So I am feeling a bit ho-hum, here...likewise just over the fence, in the probe into Russia interfering with the 2016 US Presidential election, I have been reading that countries ALWAYS are mucking into each others' elections, and the USA has done it to other countries zillions of times...:ermm:  :dizzy:  :'( ...so NOW, why are we suddenly probing?

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@ Virginia, Marianne and Rooster,

Actually, I forgot that this has been discussed before, and that the FBI investigation had begun a year and a half ago, still under the Obama administration, and before Trump was even nominated.

http://www.ihavesolved.com/34594/sanders-negotiate-questionable-president-burlington-college?show=34594#q34594


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Actually O'Tink, I thought your post was quite timely...I went back to your original Q and took this one as an opportunity to get updated as to where this was going and what was new!

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Yes, T(h)ink, that reminds me of a series of affairs which have been, probably, changing the political landscape in our close neighbourhood:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Silvio_Berlusconi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fillon_affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causa_Wulff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahuzac_affair

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Marianne, that first link about Silvio Berlusconi was especially horrific! The USA is not necessarily the worst, is it? Now I try to watch one YouTube link about the economy every day, and yesterday I saw one about Greece, and possible dynamics behind their collapse...This copied from your link...

"His (Berlusconi's) promises to sell off his personal assets to avoid conflicts of interest were never fulfilled, which sparked controversy throughout his terms in office. (H)is tenure as Prime Minister was racked with scandalous sex affairs and poor judgement and decision-making."

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@ Marianne,

Yes, Berlusconi's antics were heavily reported in the American press at the time, particularly his... um... indiscretions with underage girls.

Not quite as bad as Caligula, but...
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Hmmm...O'Tink, one of the journalists I listen to, his comment reminded me of your perspective on politicians...he suggests that the very fact someone is drawn to national-level executive power indicates there is something wrong with you...

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Virginia, I think some degree of narcissism and megalomania are evident in a lot of them.

But of course, some are more modest and are just in it to enrich themselves. 8-)

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Hmmm...O'Tink, it appears that you have come to a rather cynical (read: realistic?) assessment earlier in life than I did...well, I am doing some catch-up now...

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Well, Virginia, I'm being a bit hyperbolic.  I think Truman was modest and did not enrich himself.  I think Eisenhower was pretty good in those regards also, from what I have read. Both Roosevelts were probably all right too.

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@ O'Tink, Yes, I also have been looking back at our Presidents...also found a few I can admire, pretty much coinciding with the ones you list...might include James A. Garfield there, as having fine potential tragically interrupted by his assassination...I read his biography recently is how I even know about him.

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Lol - T(h)ink, I couldn't help chuckling at your comparison with Caligula - there is indeed a similarity ...

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Oh yes, that reminds much of certain other scandals and witch hunts - in France, for instance, several high ranking celebrities were directly, indirectly or allegedly involved in various scandals, and had to step back, pay fines or even worse.

It has become very fashionable among political circles and rivals to accuse and soil each other for the same errors.

I think that Virginia is right.


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Is this political bickering and throwing accusations ever going to end? Another way this country is flushing itself down the toilet!

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Lol, Rooster - an excellent, very outspoken question.

A "thumbs up" first, "applauding" and :):D:D:D!


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Yes Rooster, thumbs up applauding and all the other stuff Marianne is posting for you!

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Rooster, from a discussion with O'Tink; just out of curiosity - on balance, do you admire President Truman?

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@ Virginia: To a point I do! After reading two rather large books about him? My opinion of him is 50/50. he was a man that didn't like anyone who disagreed with him or didn't instantly   obey him. He had big shoes to fill and he did a pretty good job of it. Probably one of our most honest presidents we've ever had but very bull headed. He did fire a man whom I respect very much so that might prejudice my words here.

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Yes, Rooster, I had a hunch your respect of Truman would be somewhat qualified...because of what I learned in the book KILLING JAPAN. 

Oh, btw, I found KILLING LINCOLN on a free table at our local senior center, so I picked it up and will be reading it, after I finish the book O'Tink likes about the Third Reich...Richard J. Evans...don't know if you might be familiar with his writing?

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